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… whither goest my online persona?
Yesterday my Twitter pal Nicchick posted a link to this article, which asked the question – “What happens to all my social networking information when I die?”. And Nicola said it was something she hadn’t thought about before. Well I have! Quite a lot, actually. And when I told Nicola about this she suggested I write something about it. So here we go…
I suppose for most people the notion of “leaving things behind” when one dies is still a theoretical rather than practical concept, in spite of the fact that we are obviously all going to die at some point. But since being diagnosed with Stage IV cancer almost two years ago – and given a 50/50 chance of surviving for five years – the idea of dying is one quite near (though not dear) to my heart. Though I admit that living in a state of semi-denial a lot of the time is what helps keep me going. But in the end I cannot deny that this is a very real threat and so it often brings me to places that most people prefer to avoid, thinking they still have time to think about such things. Such as, what’s going to happen to my self-hosted website, my blogs and all my social media stuff once I am no more.
Of course I am assuming that I will have some advance warning that my number is about to come up, but as presumably well-meaning folk seem to like to point out – I could be hit by a bus tomorrow. Which I suppose is true enough, though most people don’t have an out of control bus actually aimed at them with their name on it. But I digress…
The thought first came to me when I paid for the CSS update on WordPress.com for this blog. As it is my main personal blog, though not self-hosted, I wanted to have a bit more control over things like font and design. But later it hit me… what happens when I’m not around to make the annual payments? Will this blog just shift back to the default theme and look icky? What if I wrote to WordPress.com about this … would they cut me some slack and keep my blog alive after I’m gone with the same CSS changes? Pretty please?
As for my self-hosted website … clearly that will go phhhhtt! once I am no longer paying for it. I feel a bit sad about that, especially for my beloved Sevilla Tapas. Perhaps I should do a basic WP.com version of Sevilla Tapas that could go live when I am dead – it would be a shame to have all that very nice info go to waste (though of course it would all become dated after a year or so).
And what about my Fotki photo albums? Could I get a fellow Fotki friend to add them to their site? At least until they die too?
I don’t feel very concerned about my social media stuff – Twitter, Friendfeed, Facebook, etc. To be honest, provided I’m not suddenly run down by a bus, I think I would just cancel all those accounts before I died. There is no real point to them if I am no longer around to keep them going.
But what if I am suddenly run down and killed by a bus? Well, I have already given all my passwords to a friend, who can edit and cancel things as they see fit. I’m more concerned about saving some of the positive stuff I’ve done and that the photos and articles stay alive for at least a while. I’m not really bothered about trolls and whatnot “defacing my memory”. I reckon they’d be seen for what they are anyhow.
And lest anyone think this is a foolish thing to concern oneself about in the face of DEATH … well, I have pretty much been azahar (az to my friends) since I first joined h2g2 back in February 2003. I actually think of this as being my real name when I am online. Which is a LOT of the time. So of course it is something I would think about. Much more than what will happen to my belongings. I have already taken care of what will happen to my cats (as far as I can take care of such things). So I guess to me, azahar is not only my online persona and a part of me – she is often the best part of me. And so this blog and my photos … those I would like to think of as carrying on. The rest? Meh.
How about you? Have you given any thought about protecting or conserving your online persona after you die?

The title for this post comes from one of my favourite songs back from when I was far too young to know how any of this would actually feel … And When I Die, written by Laura Nyro and performed by David Clayton Thomas (Blood, Sweat & Tears). You can see a live version below. Such great lyrics, Laura!










Just a note about yout Fotki pages. If I remember correctly, if you cease paying for your membership, you simply cannot use your Fotki pages as you would with a full account. That means what you have up remains up, but you would only be able to upload as per a freebie account.
Re; your Tapas blog. Can you not copy your blog to a freebie blog (yes, like the hated Blogger or a free WordPress page with a different name?). It isn’t great but it means that there would be a version of it. I’m not sure how it would work, but it is something to investigate. I know I was able to transfer my Blogger blogs to WordPress and they remain up on Blogger. I think you can do the same in reverse.
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That’s interesting about Fotki. I think I’ll write to them just to make sure what’s there now would remain even if I didn’t renew my premium membership.
As for Blogger??? Bite your tongue.
Anyhow, I already have Sevilla Tapas set up on WP.com because this is where I started off. So I could transfer a copy of the self-hosted site over to WP.com without the ads easily enough. BUT … if my self-hosted site shuts down, then the photos would “disappear” because most of them were uploaded over there and the html reference wouldn’t relate to anything on WP.com. At least, that’s the way I understand it. Same if you deleted your Blogger account. The photos you transferred would disappear. Am I right about this?
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I should also mention that I have thought of leaving my passwords in my will to a trusted friend or relation to enable them to leave a message on my blog, Fotki, H2G2, etc., pages about my demise. I don’t like the idea of my blog just sitting there and visitors wondering why I haven’t posted anything since 2085…
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A few years ago at a RCA final year exhibition I saw a project about this very theme. It was like a digital memorial, including the persons desktop (depending on who you were you could access different content).
It was implimented using a projector and camera sensors to bring the person’s actual desk in front of you.
I think there is a future for businesses to take up this area and keep that digital person alive.
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I can’t decide if that’s kind of cool or really creepy.
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I recently heard about a company which feeds into the paranoia of the Christians who believe in the Rapture.
As you know, when the “Rapture” happens, only those dyed-in-the-blood-of-the-Lamb Christians are going to get sucked up the Heaven and their pets will all be “left behind”. There are a lot of worried pet owners who are afraid their pets are going to die. Because, as we all know, pets don’t go to Heaven… 😉 😉 😉 😉 😉 😉 😉 😉
A group of Atheists have started a pet insurance company which promised that when the Rapture “happens” dedicated Atheists will look after the Christians’ pets.
While they are getting the “inevitable” hate mail from Christians, they are actually getting people buying the insurance.
Beauty!
Oh… and there is another service which will send emails to the living after the Rapture…
http://www.youvebeenleftbehind.com/
Beautier!
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Morning, I have been looking forward to reading your thoughts on this matter since we “discussed” it yesterday.
I suppose it is a question of leaving your “house” in order, if you are given notice of your demise, as opposed to the hit by a bus exit. So, as much as we choose to put our house and effects in order, we should also give thought to our online presence.
When people are “gone” those that are left behind, often find confort in the strangest possessions that they wish to keep. Likewise, our online presence, could be a confort to some people. Or equally, it could be upsetting.
I am not sure I agree with keeping everything in a shrine like/memorial state.
In fact, I really truly dont know what I think about this whole side of things that I admittedly havent given much thought to. That said, the thought stayed with me last night as I went to bed and is no clearer in my head this morning.
I will let you know when I have clearer thoughts on the whole subject.
In the meantime, thank you Az for sharing your thoughts on this very personal matter.
Nicky
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Other than my cat(s), I’m not concerned about what happens to my stuff. It’s just stuff. I assume Nog will just keep it all, or give it away when he moves back to the UK.
But a lot of my online stuff is, well, ME. Especially this blog. Which I suppose will just stay as it is, though I would like someone to add a final post (possibly written by me) and then close off all the posts to comments.
Rethinking the Sevilla Tapas site, I would probably just pay my host-site a couple of years in advance and then let it die out, as the entries will have become dated by then. Oh, this is weird. I just received a Twitter private message from someone offering to “keep Sevilla Tapas alive”. Which on the one hand is quite thoughtful and on the other hand is kinda… “yeesh, I’m not on my deathbed yet!”. 😉 But that’s something I hadn’t thought of. Possibly selling the site to someone and then have that money put towards cat maintenance. Or just give it away to someone who might be able to make use of it and carry on with the project.
And I’m pretty sure I would like things like Twitter, Facebook, Friendfeed, LinkdIn to just be deleted.
So having thought about it a bit more, I think this blog and my Fotki albums could stand as a sort of “online memorial”. The rest? No big deal.
Interested in hearing what you come up with though, Nicky.
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You did hear, I suppose, that Gordon Lightfoot was sitting in his dentist’s chair when the news came on and announced he had died…
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/02/18/lightfoot-alive.html
“I haven’t had so much airplay on my music now for weeks.”
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Years ago I wrote “the death letters” as dragonprincess calls them. Letters to the hatchlings and to some people I work closely with. They include instructions how to handle various “left-overs” as well as passwords etc. Hopefully that means that there will be closed blogs and messages on the interweb communities I visit on a regular basis that I am no more.
I update them on a regular basis, i.e before anaesthesia or going abroad.
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That’s very pragmatic, dq. Heh, “the death letters”…
I wrote out a page of passwords, etc and gave it to Nog before my last operation. He ended up losing it! So I think I should look for someone else to take care of my on-line stuff. Or just send all the info to Nog in an email. I’ll probably choose at least one more person to share this responsibility.
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Excellent song.
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It’s funny I should read this now, I just had a talk with a good friend, on where to find my passwords and what I’d like her to do with them. I don’t have many friends online, besides you and a few other good friends, I figure that some of them will want to know. And the others? They’ll probably want to know when to burn an effigy of me! Cats are already spoken for, bless their furry little butts.
LOVE to find out I’m not the only Laura Nyro fan left out here! There’s some quality teenage angst in them songs… :rofl:
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Hi,
I found some more websites/services for managing your digital assets after you die.
http://www.thedigitalbeyond.com/
http://www.thedigitalbeyond.com/ which is apparently going to be a free service starting in March.
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Interesting … will have a look. Thanks, Nicky.
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Thanks for mentioning The Digital Beyond. As a point of clarification, we’re simply an independent resource for information about the digital afterlife. We don’t run or endorse any one service, but I do encourage you to take a look at the list we maintain: http://www.thedigitalbeyond.com/online-services-list/
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