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mounjaro – la trampa!

21 Tuesday Jul 2026

Posted by azahar in health, health & happiness, knee saga, knees, sevilla

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doctors, health, mounjaro, sevilla

Today I went to see my GP about getting my Mounjaro prescription refilled and possibly “upgraded”. In case you don’t know, they start you off at the lowest dosage (2.5 mg) which is supposed to get your body used to the medication without too many side effects. Then the usual thing is to up the dosage to 5 mg and see how you get on with that. If you are losing weight at a reasonable rate then you stay where you are, but if you need more (of whatever it is this thing does) then your dose can be steadily increased up to what sounds to me like a whopping 15 mg dose. Each pen holds four doses and the higher the dosage, the higher the price.

2.5 mg208€
5 mg272€
7.5 mg359€
10 mg359€
12.5 mg446€
15 mg446€

At 208€ per 4-dose pen, the 2.5 mg dose is already too expensive for me, especially as this is meant to be a long-term treatment. So I was going to ask my GP if she thought I could stay with the initial dosage and see how I go, but it turned out my GP wasn’t there (on holiday?) and I ended up seeing someone new. Oh well. You may recall that when my old GP (and friend) Agustín retired just after Covid lockdown his replacement was (I’m sorry but she was) a really horrible woman who seemed miserable at her job. She didn’t listen to me at all, sent me for treatment I never asked for or wanted, like fucking bariatric surgery, without informing me. I was thinking about changing clinics when one day I went to an appointment and Heartless GP was gone and there was a new doctor there. Another woman, but this time a nice one. Well, I mean she was a bit cold and clinical but she did get things done, things I asked for. So I have been more or less happy with Nice GP though I can’t actually talk to her (I’ve tried). Anyhow, then today…

Another woman. I still don’t know if she is now my new GP or if Nice GP is on holiday, but the first thing she did was apologise for taking another patient ahead of me saying she had seen me in the waiting room but it looked like I was waiting for someone else (well I was, so I wasn’t sitting outside her door) but no harm done. Then I sat down and told her that I was there for a new prescription but wasn’t sure if I should continue with the original 2.5 mg dose because it seemed everyone switched to 5 mg after the first month. But I’d already lost 2.5 kilos in three weeks and I thought that was a good rate of weight loss (slow but sure), and she agreed. I told her that price was a factor and, indeed, forking out 208€ a month was probably better motivation and more effective than whatever the medication was doing. And she laughed. SHE LAUGHED. Omg. Then she showed me the price chart above and said… you know “hay una trampa” (there’s a trick) and I was all ears.

Then she leaned in and said that when they were first showing them this new medication and how it worked they also showed them this “trampa” which was this. Say, like me, you are paying 208€ for four 25 mg doses a month. That is what that pen is going to always cost. BUT… if you bought the 5 mg one at 272€ and only took a half dose each time then it would last twice as long and cost 136€ per month. And I was like… whaaat? Even better if you go for the 10 mg one, which would last for four months at 90€ a month. I was a bit overwhelmed. First of all, that Mounjaro pen took a while to master (I have it down now, can administer it without needing the video 😅) but cutting the dose? Tricky. New Fab GP said she didn’t know how all the different pens actually worked, saying they could explain it to me at the farmacia, but I was unsure. So we agreed that I would continue on the 2.5 mg dose for another month while I did more research on this. So far everything on google is saying I SHOULD NOT do this, but they would say that, wouldn’t they?

Meanwhile, we talked about how my weight gain happened after all that chemo (2008-2009), followed directly by menopause and, well, just getting older, and she’s the first doctor has agreed that chemo can seriously affect metabolism. She said another benefit of Mounjaro is that it helps not only with blood sugar levels and lowering appetite, but it also metabolically “rebalances” your body. Hmmm. I dunno about that but I do know I’ll stick with it for now because I really really want a new knee.

wegovy vs mounjaro

29 Monday Jun 2026

Posted by azahar in health, knee saga, knees, sevilla

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health, knee saga, mounjaro, sevilla

Spoiler alert… Mounjaro has already “won”, at least for now, but mostly because I was put on the spot today and didn’t want to have to wait another two weeks to see my GP again. It’s like this. Wegovy (semaflutide) and Mounjaro (tirzepatide) are both GLP-1 drugs that slow digestions and suppresses appetite, but Moujaro has another hormone called GIP that has a stronger impact on blood sugar regulation and hunger reduction.

I had been leaning towards Wegovy as I had read that it is also approved not just for weight loss but cardiovascular health, helping to lower blood pressure and inflammation, as well as reducing the risk of “cardiac events” by as much as 20%. Sounded good to me. And I was hoping that today’s blood test results, combined with my heart issues, would mean that it could be prescribed for medical reasons (not just weight loss) so I wouldn’t have to pay.

Mounjaro is mostly prescribed for Type 2 diabetes and weight loss, with no obvious cardiac benefits. The Endo had made it sound like the only way I could get either of these covered by social security was to be diabetic, hence the new blood test. But it turns out that not only am I not diabetic, my GP informed me today that neither of these drugs are covered under SS so I would have to pay in any case.

So then I asked… how much? Wegovy is 180€ for the first month, Moujaro is 210€. Apparently the price will either remain the same or increase depending on whether I need stronger doses going forward. But GP insisted that Mounjaro is the preferred option these days but if I wanted to think it over… no no, no more delays. I went for it.

Effectiveness… Wegovy shows an average weight loss of 15-21% over 72 week, Moujaro 21-22.5% over the same time period.

Meanwhile, I dunno. Yes, I’m going to give it a go. Picking up the prescription this evening (they had to order it in) so will start tomorrow. But everything I read is about it suppressing appetite, even about losing “obsessive thoughts about food” (probably from feeling nauseous from the drug) and this just isn’t my problem. I mean, yes I do obsess about food, but more in the sense of photographing it and, yes, making it too, but not about wanting to eat all the time. Because you may recall, after four major abdominal ops, my belly is full of adhesions (look at your own risk) so if I do ever happen to over eat, which rarely happens anymore… PAIN PAIN OMG VOMIT VOMIT MORE PAIN. I mean, it’s like I have my own built-in Wegovy/Moujaro. Anyhow, we shall see I guess. Wish me luck.

Apparently I should be down to acceptable knee op weight by Oct/Nov and then I’ll have to get my GP to request another Traumatology appt (average waiting time: 6 months) and THEN they’ll put me on the waiting list for an operation (as long as I’ve kept the weight off). Honestly, if I despair at times, can you really blame me? Every day the pain gets worse, walking (hobbling) is becoming almost impossible and now I have a whole year ahead of me before I will even be able to see the slightest bit of light at the end of this awful awful pain-filled tunnel. Anyhoodle… out of words.

vinoble 2026

29 Friday May 2026

Posted by azahar in getaways, knee saga, knees, wine

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getaways, jerez, knee saga, sherry, vinoble

Off to Jerez tomorrow for Vinoble 2026! The hotel was booked in January, got train tickets last week, cat sitting is sorted… very excited but also worried about how I’ll hold up. I can honestly barely hobble these days, the pain has become so intense not only in my knee but also my damn shoulder. Some days I don’t know which is worse and together it sometimes just leaves me unable to do anything. BUT… I shall try! I see quite a few taxis in my near future.

the endo

28 Thursday May 2026

Posted by azahar in health, knee saga, knees, sevilla

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health, healthcare, knee saga, sevilla

Last (also first) time I saw an endo was in July 2023. Heartless GP had set up the appointment for me and I thought it was going to be about, you know, my endocrine system and metabolism, etc. But it turned out she had made an appointment recommending bariatric surgery (!!!) which I would never have consented to and which I was too old for anyhow.

I was hoping for more this time round as Nice GP made today’s appointment asking for treatment re: weight loss for knee surgery suggesting THOSE injections. What the heck, worth a try? Anyhow, this endo was less dismissive than the first one but said she needed an up to date blood analysis (which should happen next week) and then she mentioned two drugs: Wegovy and Munjaro. And then came the clincher… they are only subsidised for treatment of type 2 diabetes, which presumably the new blood test will rule out. She said Wegovy was less expensive than Mounjaro (180€ vs 360€ per month) and my GP could prescribe one or the other for me after I get the blood test results. Then I go back to see her, the endo, in October.

So now what? I really don’t know. Obviously I can’t afford either of these drugs, but I’ll go get the blood work done and then take things from there.

here we go again…

06 Wednesday May 2026

Posted by azahar in sevilla, health, knees, knee saga

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sevilla, health, knees, knee saga, gp

Back to see my GP today. I wanted to make sure everything was registered and understood re: the knee op and required weight loss, and the procedure we would follow. After my long-time friend, GP (and ex-student) Agustín retired just after lockdown it’s been a bit hit and miss with front line health care. At first I was assigned Heartless GP who didn’t listen to anything I said and clearly couldn’t wait for me to leave her consulting room asap. Then in June 2024 I had to see the GP again and was surprised to see a different woman at the desk. Pleasantly surprised as it turned out because, in spite of a somewhat serious demeanour, she was actually a Nice GP! She got stuff done. It’s thanks to her that I’m even seeing the proper specialists. In other words, she understands the job.

So today she looked over the last report from Traumatology, including the weight loss requirement, and her first response was to say that I should see an endocrinologist. Since the first step to a new knee is the weight loss, she said we needed to find ways to have that happen as quickly and efficiently as possible. And well, yes please! Then I remembered how back in 2023 Heartless GP had sent me to The Endo for bariatric surgery (!!!) when I thought that appointment was going to be about getting to grips with metabolism, post-chemo and menopause issues, trying to work out a way that would help me not have to take statins and other meds that had recently been prescribed. Anyhow, that appointment was a complete disaster (read at your own risk).

Today it felt different. Again, Nice GP is no-nonsense, I can’t joke with her, I can’t say anything actually personal, she’s just dealing with the facts. The facts today included making a new appointment with an endo (hopefully not the same one as before) and also putting in a new “preferential” request for my shoulder (that appointment seems to have gone missing) and then that was that. And for now that’s fine. Because for now, that’s all I’ve got.

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